The Agreeable Brains Ep 99

Chad is joined by Travis and T.Rob to go where no podcast has gone before – we review Star Trek Into Darkness. Warning, our phasers are set to Spoil!

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The Agreeable Brains Ep 47

Avengers Assemble! First Scott and Chad wait in line for the midnight showing of The Avengers, then later we are joined by third brain Travis for a spoilerific discussion of the movie.

Theme song by Muffin Button.

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1 Line Reviews - Xbox 360 Games

Recently I had to describe our podcast in one sentence for a promotion we were doing. I didn't realize how hard it was until I had to sit down and actually do it and that got me thinking about how much, volume wise, I actually write about things.

The whole purpose of putting something out every week is that we're supposed to get better, but are longer and longer articles actually better? I was not sure. So I came up with this writing exercise – The 1 Line Review. The intent is to figure out how to best distill the essence of a thing down to as few words as possible. So I'm going to give it a shot and if it goes well I might challenge some of my buddies that also write to have a go.

For this first article I'm going to write a 1 Line Review on each of the Xbox 360 games that I actually own. Nothing that I've borrowed or rented to play, just those games that I've actually purchased. Also, I can't promise that I won't end up doing a full review of some of these later.

Brink

I thought this was going to be the next big online shooter but nobody I know loves it except me.

Borderlands

Not only is this an amazing hybrid of first person shooter and role playing but it is also one of my most favorite games of all time.

Bulletstorm

I have not actually played this yet but the demo was awesome and the deal I got was just too good to pass up.

Culdcept Saga

An awesome mash up of board game and collectable card game elements that is much deeper than you might first think but the interface is not intuitive at all.

Dance Central

Now I can finally learn how to crank that Soldier Boy in the privacy of my own living room.

Fantastic Pets

We bought this game so the kids would stop begging us for a pet and yes, my pet is better than theirs.

Kinect Adventures!

The amount that I sweat while playing this is either a testament to how good of a work out it is or goes to show you how out of shape I am.

Mortal Kombat

My nostalgia for playing the first three Mortal Kombat games with my friends in college makes this the perfect fighting game for me, I just wish I had friends now that played it.

NBA Jam

Another nostalgia purchase made mostly to fill the sports game gap in my collection and to give me something I could actually play with my kids.

Quake 4

I have not played this one either but it was a good deal and I know a guy that worked on it.

Rockband 2

The only game I've liked enough to own two copies of at the same time for two different game systems.

Rockband 3

Enough of an improvement over it's predecessor that I've exported the RB2 songs so I can play it twice as much.

Transformers: War for Cybertron

Best Transformer game ever and a great third person shooter, but the lack of split screen co-op is a huge disappointment.

Viva Pinata

Great visuals, but too complicated for the kids until they are a bit older and too much like actual work for me to play it all that frequently.

And there you have it, my first shot at 1 Line Reviews. Let me know what you think of this exercise in the comments below so we can decide if this is something to continue or scrap.

Game Brains - Chaos in the Old World

This week I had the chance to play the board game Chaos in the Old World. This game was published by Fantasy Flight Games in 2009 and was designed by Eric M Lang. Eric is actually one of the two guys that designed the Quarriors game I spoke about in episode 12.

First of all I want give a little background on my history with this game. I followed the development of this game when Fantasy Flight announced it and was really excited and knew I wanted to have it in my collection. I was lucky enough to receive it for Christmas and I opened it, punched and bagged everything, read the rules, and then stuck it my gaming shelf. And it set there for almost two years.

I don't really know why I didn't get this to the table sooner, the situation was just never right. The game does not have the option for two players and so I never had a chance to test it out with my brother or my wife. It only supports a maximum of 4 players and my regular gaming group is normally 5 or 6 guys. Scott and I do get together for game nights with our wives, but I don't know if the theme is something that would appeal to them.

And this game is chock full of theme. The game is set in the fantasy world of Warhammer, made popular by the table top wargame. In that setting there are four “gods” of Chaos and those are the guys that the players represent. Each of you take on the role of the commanders of one of the Chaos factions and each one plays slightly different which really adds to the experience. Khorne is the god of war and so he is all about combat. Nurgle is the god of decay and so he is all about corrupting the populated regions. Tzeentch is the god of magic so that is where his focus lies and Slaanesh is the god of pleasure so that player gets made fun of a lot.

The premise of the game is that these guys do not get along with each other any more than they do with the rest of the world. The game represents the four forces of Chaos vying for domination of the various regions of the world. So Khorne doesn't just want to wage war on the Old World, he wants to make sure that Nurgle doesn't get to have any fun corrupting it first.

The game is played out on large board dominated by a map of the Warhammer fantasy world. There is also a scoring track that goes around three edges of the board, and a section with four threat dials with one for each of the players. Below the threat dials are sections to keep a few decks of cards. They could have gotten away with just a typical game map but, befitting the Ruinous Powers of Chaos, the map is actually illustrated to give the appearance that it is tattooed on the splayed skin of some unfortunate individual. An awesome touch, but another reason why I won't be bringing this one to family reunions.

There is one unusual part of the set up part of this game, you actually need to determine which player is going to control which faction before you sit down. In this game the order you sit around the table does matter because the factions take their turns in a specific order. Honestly I guess you don't have to sit in the correct order but it would be a mess trying to remember whose turn it is.

Once you determine which army you are going to control you need to get your stuff in order. You get a handy player reference card that will tell you not only which Chaos God you control, but also how much power you have used for the turns as well as the flow of the game and what each of the “Old World tokens” are used for. You get a big pile of your own tokens with your symbol on them, these are corruption tokens used to track your influence in each region. You get two decks of cards specific to your faction. You get a group of 5 normal sized card that are upgrades you can earn during the course of the game, and you get a deck of 20 or so small cards which are special powers, tactics, and spells you can use during the game. On top of all that you get some plastic miniatures that represent your followers. There are three types, Cultists, Warriors, and Greater Deamons, but how many you receive of each type and what they actually do depends on which Chaos God they follow.

I enjoy games with multiple ways to win, and this game has three different win conditions.

You can win by spinning your threat dial all the way around. Each of the Chaos Gods have a different rule that lets them earn advancement tokens. At the end of each round any player that has at least one token gets to advance their threat dial. The player with the most tokens gets an extra spin. Even if you don't think you can win the game by being the most threatening you still want to advance when you can. Every time you spin your dial you get some sort of bonus. It could be something simple like removing one of your opponents corruption tokens or it could be one of the coveted upgrades. This lets you choose one of your upgrade cards to put in to play. You can upgrade one of your followers to give them a special ability or get some other advantage to help you in your fight.

Another way you can win is by reaching 50 points on the victory track. The main way that you earn victory points are by controlling regions of the world. But even if you are not fighting the other players for a region they are not always easy to control. Not only do you have to contend with the basic defense of each location but certain events can make certain regions harder to take over. There are also some events that give you opportunities to earn extra victory points.

Or you can win by ruining 5 of the regions of the Old World. At the end of each round you get to add one of your corruption tokens to the board for each cultist follower you still have alive. These go in the region that the cultist is currently in. If any region gets a combined 12 corruption tokens it is considered ruined. Each player that helped corrupt it the turn it become ruined gets a few victory points, then depending on how many other ruined regions there are the two players with the most tokens in the area get additional victory points. Once 5 regions are ruined the player with the most victory at the time is considered the winner.

But don't think it's all doom and gloom for the Old World, there is a glimmer of hope. There is a deck of 7 Old World cards kept on the board and each turn you flip over the top one and see what happens. In this way the game fights back a little bit by throwing out some unexpected situations. Since you only use a random 7 cards from a pool of about 30 it really adds to the replay value. And if you burn through the deck with no winner then all of the forces of Chaos have collectively lost.

The game is played out in a series of phases with each player taking their turn(s) within the phase in order. You get a certain amount of power to spend each turn and a certain number of your Chaos cards to use. The first main phase consists of each player in turn either summoning a follower or playing a card to a region. There is no limit to the amount of followers that can be summoned to a region, but each region can only have two cards total. So even if you don't get a huge advantage from one of your cards it can still be strategic to play one just to block the spot from the other players. Each follower and card has a cost associated with it that comes from your pool of power. Once all players are out of power for the turn you move on to the next phase.

The next phase is combat. Any region that has more than one group of followers will have a combat. Each player, in order, will roll a pool of dice equal to the combined attack of their group of followers. You then assign hits to any available targets. All models get to attack, they are not removed until the end of the combat when all casualties are taken away. Once you are done beating the tar out of each other you then check to see if anyone controls each region and score accordingly.

That is the game in a nutshell but since this is a game about Chaos...well you know that it's just not that simple. There are some random elements to the game and if that sort of thing bothers you just be warned.

While the map is fixed every game each region does receive a random Old World token during the set up. This could make the area full of lowly peasants to slaughter, the location of some sort of royalty that needs corrupting, some sickly warpstone making the area already that much more corrupt, or some other element to deal with. On top of that you have the random 7 Old World cards that I mentioned. These cause something to happen each turn of the game, from something beneficial to something that completely throws your plans off track. If you cannot adapt and respond to what is brewing in the Old World as well as what you fellow players have going on you might find yourself gaining nothing for a turn and that can be hard to make up later.

This past Sunday my weekly gaming group still met even though it was Labor Day weekend. But since a few guys were busy with other stuff we found ourselves with only 4 guys. I mentioned off hand that this would be a perfect time to try out Chaos in the Old World and to my surprise the other guys agreed. It probably didn't hurt that most of my friends are currently playing Warhammer 40k and so anything Warhammer is interesting to them. And the same four Chaos Gods appear in both settings so they were already at least a bit familiar with who they were.

Lucky for me I had already sorted and bagged everything all those years ago so set up was a breeze. I had the stuff for each player in a separate labeled bag and so was able to just pass those out. We started with the player who had one the last game we played and then just went around the table in order. The turn order starts with Khorne and then moves to Nurgle, Tzeentch, and ends with Slaanesh. I also want to point out that everything for each player is color coded which really does help tell what belongs to who as the game board fills up. Khorne gets blood red, Nurgle is sickly green, Tzeentch is a deep blue, and Slaanesh is a pretty purple.

I ended up playing Nurgle which meant that I would go second during each round of each phase. Reading my player sheet I see that I get to put a token on my Threat dial every time I put two or more corruption tokens on a “populous” region in the same turn. Remember that only your Cultist followers get to put down corruption, and Nurgle only has access to 6 of those types of followers. Looking at the board I could only find 4 regions that were designated as “populous”. My initial plan was to try to go for two of them that were adjacent in the south west corner of the map. I figured if I could corrupt both every turn I would always be advancing my dial and if I was lucky then maybe I could be getting two advancements on the turns that the other players didn't meet their advancement conditions that often.

Nurgle has access to 5 Warrior followers called Plaguebearers. These guys are minor deamons that are just basic fighters with 1 attack and 1 defense, but having 5 available gave me a bit more bite than Tzeentch and Slaanesh. The only one that I (and everyone else) had to worry about was Khorne. My one Greater Deamon was a big fat slob of a monster called a Great Unclean One. He is actually pretty beefy with 3 attack and 3 defense, but he costs 3 of your 6 summon points to bring out.

So the game begins and we turn over the first Old World event and my plans immediately need adjusting. Seems someone found a holy grail and brought it to Brettonia, which is one of the regions I had in my sights. While I could still add corruption tokens to that space, until the event card was gone all corruption tokens were removed at the end of every round. So it would take that much longer to ruin the region. So I started thinking that I would just try to corrupt and dominate the other region I was planning on using, get it ruined that much faster, and then spread out once the event was over. Plus if I was dominating that would get me some extra victory points over those I would receive for the ruination.

So we began summoning and Khorne puts a follower in the Northeast corner of the map, all the way on the other side of the board from where I was planning to strike. I was feeling pretty good about my plan so I summoned one of my Warriors the region I had my eye on the whole time. I figured I would open with a Warrior and let the other guys know that I was willing to fight for this space.

Then Tzeentch goes and summons a cultist to the exact same region that I just did. What the @#!*% Tzeentch? Apparently something drew his eye to that spot but I could not for the life of me figure out what it was. It was not a weak region that was easy to grab, it didn't have anything he needed for threat advancement, it was not adjacent to a lot of regions making it easy to spread out. The only thing it had going for it was that it was the furthest away from where Khorne set up camp.

So reacting to this I spread out from that area and begin trying to dominate some regions to score at least some sort of victory points. I did end up setting up some guys in Bretonnia just to get the dial advancements but the event seemed destined to stay out as long as it could and those regions never did get ruined. During the later half of the game Slaanesh got tired of Khorne beating his followers not in a good way and up and teleported his entire army from the North side of the board to the South, leaving me and Tzeentch between him and Khorne. So for the last few turns I ended up butting heads with Khonre but I think my guys did alright.

The game was won by Khorne when he moved his Threat Dial all the way to the victory spot. I came in second as far as victory points, but we totally messed up a rule and I think I might have won if we had been playing correctly. Khonre gets an advancement token every time he kills a model in battle. We were counting the peasant tokens he was killing as models but if we had read the rules closely we would have seen that those are clearly tokens and do not count for Khornes advancement condition. Although if we had known that he would have just come after us more so who knows how it would have ended up.

Overall this is a great game, I cannot wait to play it again. I'm glad that I own it and really regret that this gem was just sitting my shelf this whole time. Fantasy Flight games released an expansion for this game earlier this year which expands the game up to 5 players and I feel it's a must have for me. Supporting 5 players will let me get this to the table much more often.

I'm going to try to convince Scott to play this next time my wife and I are over at his house, but I'm still not sure how well the theme will go over with our wives. I think that the theme is implemented perfectly, but it's just not a theme that will appeal to everyone.

If you are a fan of the Games Workshop Warhammer setting then I think this game is a must have, so at least give it a try. If you don't mind a dark fantasy setting or playing the bad guy every once in a while, and you regularly have 3 friends over, then you definitely want to take a look. Otherwise, even though this is a great game, I think the theme is too integral a part that you could over look it.

Game Brains - Battleship Galaxies: The Saturn Offensive

I mentioned a few episodes ago that I was looking forward to trying out the new board game from Hasbro and Wizards of the Coast called Battleship Galaxies. This game was released in 2011 and is a spin off of sorts of the classic game Battleship. I was very excited about this game because it was designed by the same guys that developed the game Heroscape - one of my all time favorite games.

As you can probably tell from the title this game is Battleship IN SPACE, except that it’s really not. Well, it is in space, but it is not the game you think of when you hear the name Battleship.

Gone is the double sided secret board. Instead, while you do have a screen to set your fleet up in secret, the game is played on a large hex grid with nice star field graphics. Each ship includes a flight stand that has a base the size of 1 hex for small fighters, a double hex for your standard spaceships, and large 7 hex base for the huge battleships. Movement works just like it does in Heroscape.

Gone is randomly guessing hit locations. Instead you get a pair of dice - a d8 with the number 1 though 8 and a d10 with the letters A though J. When your ship fires a weapon you roll both of the dice to get a classic pair like B4 or G6. Instead of one big grid with all your ships on it each ship has its own hit grid with a silhouette of the ship on it. After rolling your combination you check the grid of the ship to see if you hit or miss. An awesome yet simple mechanic that I really love.

Gone is marking your damaged ships with tiny red pegs. Well, that’s not true. While you don’t track the exact place that your ship was hit, you do track damage with tiny red pegs. Each ship begins the game with a certain amount of shield points. These are represented by tiny blue pegs that you place in the holes on the base of the ships flight stand. When you take damage you remove shields, once those are gone you start adding those tiny red pegs, once you have a number of red pegs equal to the ships hull rating the ship is destroyed. Another great mechanic that is very intuitive.

The best way to describe this game is a mix of a tactical wargame with resource management. You start the game with a certain amount of energy and gain a certain amount each turn, everything you do in the game costs a certain amount of energy. There is also a deck of cards, these include actions you can play, as well as new equipment, systems, and crew you can add to your ships. You begin with a few and draw one each turn.

The game sells for around $60 bucks, but for the amount of stuff you get in the box that is a steal. There are only two armies, but you can play a team game with 4 players. It took us a good two hours to finish a game but a lot of that was set up as we had not done it before. If Heroscape is anything to go by we can probably expect to see either additional armies or at least more ships for the existing armies, especially since the first set had the subtitle “The Saturn Offensive”.


I really wanted to pick this game up but was hesitant for a few reasons. Mostly I was not sure how often I would get this game to the table. If it’s too simple then my gaming group won’t want to play it, if it’s too hard then I won’t be able to play it with my kids, and if it’s not a lot of fun then I won’t be able to play it with my non-gamer friends. Lucky for me I have an awesome local game shop and they had a copy for in store play.

I met my brother at the shop after work and we fought for a little bit of a game table to set the game up on. There is a lot of stuff in the box, but the box control is awesome, there is a space for everything, including a spot for each ship.

I do want to issue one caveat: we only played the introductory game - so our fleets and decks were pre-determined, and our only goal was to destroy the other fleet - so there are bits of the game that we did not experience.

There are two factions, the Humans and the Wretch - which are some sort of alien baddies. So of course I picked those guys. Each side had their huge battleship, two ships, and one squad of 3 fighters. There was another ship and another squad of fighters for each side we did not use. What is cool is that each ship has three cards representing three different versions - when you are building your own fleet you can pick which version you want as each version has a different cost associated with it.

I got to activate first and decided to add a hero to one of my ships and a new weapon to another. The hero increased the damage of my ships normal weapon by one and made it harder to blow them up. The weapon had a strength of 1 at a range of 5 but increased in damage the closer you were. I launched both of those ships into my deployment zone. My brother had his battleship and one of his other ships on the board. Overall the Wretch seem to have better shields but the Humans make up for it with much stronger hulls.

I had my fighters docked into my Battleship, that meant that I could launch my Battleship and then later on launch the fighters from it rather than into my deployment zone. Normally it would be a secret as to what you had docked but since we were learning we didn’t hide anything. The Human battleship was big enough to hold their fighter squad as well as the other ship. The humans may have been a bit faster than the Wretch because they were in the middle of the board before we were in firing distance.

This is where the game got a little bogged down, once you get in to firing distance there seems to be not a lot of reason to maneuver. Rather than the cinematic Star War type battles it is a bit more like Star Trek where the ships close the distance and then sort of drift around firing at each other.

I launched my Battleship and played a card that doubled her range for a turn so I was able to fire on the Human Battleship from my starting zone. The cards are a really cool component of the game that are a big plus. The hero crew that I added to one of my ships saved my bacon twice in a row - the special ability was that if the ship would be destroyed you would roll the d8 and if you got a 7 or 8 you ignored the damage. I was somehow able to pull this off twice in a row before finally blowing up. Lucky for me I had another copy of the card and so played it like my hero jumped into an escape pod and was picked up by my Battleship. I think playing this was would be the most fun but unfortunately after an hour we were both down to just a few ships and the game turned in to “Shoot this with this, A1” “Miss” etc.

Overall I really like this game, and I will probably pick it up eventually, but for the moment I think I will pass. Don't get me wrong, I would totally play a game any time someone asked me, I just don’t need it in my collection right now.

There just seems to be too much of a random element for it to be a “gamer game”, I could tell that my brothers poor rolls were bugging him. The humans had 3 copies of a card that let them shoot a nuclear warhead, the first two totally missed and the second one took out one fighter but managed to miss the splash damage on every other ship around it.

The game might be a bit too hard for my kids, I think with help my daughter could play but I don't know if she would find the game interesting. There is just too much reading necessary for my son, but in a few years I can give it a shot.

I don’t know if the game would be something that my non-gamer friends would be interested in playing. The play time might be just too long to hold their attention, that is something that will need to be tested out. Also I’m not sure if the army building/deck building aspect would be something they would want to mess with.



So overall, great game that will probably pick up eventually, I just have a lot of other games I want to play more often first. If you know someone that has it or have a game store that has a store copy I would definitely recommend playing a few times to see how you like it.

Counterpunch - Sucker Punch

Chad’s view on Zack Snyder's love letter to every nerd ever.

So during this weeks show Scott mentioned that he recently watched the movie Sucker Punch and did not care of it at all. Unfortunately I had yet to see it so we couldn’t do the actual discussion that you guys deserved - but to remedy that, and contrary to Scotts repeated warnings, I rented the movie this morning and sat down to watch it.

I will preface this review by saying that I really like Zack Snyder’s films, I have not seen everything that he’s done but I do think that he “gets it” when it comes to making cool movies. 300 and Watchmen are great, definitely not my favorite movies of all times, but I really enjoyed them for what they were. I believe that Zack has totally continued that tradition with Sucker Punch and I’m looking forward to Man of Steel.

I’m not going in to a long winded review just a few key notes, the movie was released last March so there are over four hundred thousand results for the search “Sucker Punch Review” - you should be able to find something worth your time in there. I don't know how well the movie did at the theaters, I wanted to see it but never had the chance. At the moment it does have an even 50% split on Rotten Tomatoes so it does seem to be a love it or hate it type of movie. Or that could mean that this movie suffered the same fate as Scott Pilgrim, a lot of the target audience just doesn't go out to the movie theater any more.

Sucker Punch is a tribute to one of the greatest genre of action movies - the martial arts movie. Like those movies, the story is really just a frame work to feature all of those bad ass fight scenes. And the fight scenes in Sucker Punch are some of the coolest visuals ever caputured on film (or would be if anyone still used film). I can’t think of anything that nerds enjoy that was left out of this film except for pirates. And I didn’t watch the extended cut so who knows. Of course it’s all a dream - the kitchen sink approach would not really make sense any other way. But just how much is real and how much is a dream is intentionally left vague. And if you need any additional hints as to what that is a tribute to the entire fight against the steampunk clockwork zombie Nazi’s is scored by an awesome cover of Jefferson Airplane’s White Rabbit. (In fact the entire soundtrack was crazy awesome.)

But just because the story is there to get us from one fight to another that does not mean that you should totally ignore it. The opening is not as vague and the ending is not as abrupt as Scott made it sound. There are layers to the story and a lot of what you see is open to interpretation. Even though I watched the same film as Scott, I apparently saw a totally different story.

My opinion is a big thumbs up for this one: spend a dollar at Redbox or wait for it to show up on Netflix. At the very least you get 2 hours of awesome fights but you might just be surprised at how deep this rabbit hole goes.

Abandon all hope (for spoilers) ye who read past here:

So a few things that were said during the show were wrong - these won’t make sense if you have not listened to ep 11 but they are spoileriffic so go watch the movie and come back.

• The guy at the beginning of the film is clearly their step dad, if you can’t tell from all the context clues he actually says it at the mental institution.
• The main character is called Baby Doll in her dream sequences, not Baby Girl. We don’t learn her actual name. It looks like it might be on the paperwork her step dad fills out but I didn’t have the Blu Ray and didn’t feel like trying to make it out.
• In my opinion the movie did not take place in the blink of an eye - all of the dialogue at the end of the movie clearly indicates that Baby Doll’s fantasy world was her escapism but did have analogues in the real world. She did steal the items, she did stab Blue, she did start a fire, and did help Sweet Pea escape.